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glen@jetsoftdev.com
Hi All,

I am curious if it is possible to use the I2C interface as data bridge  from the Aero2Core to the Duvero?

I can’t get the serial to reliably work in periods less than a second.

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Re: I2C interface as bridge between Aero2Core to Duvero

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Hi Glen,

My apologies for being absent on here ... I'll try and go back and answer all your previous questions.

Although I've never actually done it, theoretically I think it should be possible to do communication over I2C (using jumper wires on the header).  I would expect that one of the devices can act as a slave.  However, why are you resorting to using I2C?  UART is the easiest but you've said you're having issues (I'll try and address those other threads).  What about SPI?  I have done some communication between the DuoVero and M4 via SPI and it worked well enough.  I did see some packet errors with large packets at higher rates (DuoVero is master, M4 is slave).  We're currently working on resolving this SPI bridge issue.


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I may have meant SPI. There are two bridges in the documention. Uart and one other.

See my previous thread about uart. Trying to send 64bytes every 16ms from M4 to duovero. Something is not right in that direction. Other direction works great!

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On Jan 25, 2017, at 12:45 PM, Andrew C. Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Glen,

My apologies for being absent on here ... I'll try and go back and answer
all your previous questions.

Although I've never actually done it, theoretically I think it should be
possible to do communication over I2C (using jumper wires on the header).  I
would expect that one of the devices can act as a slave.  However, why are
you resorting to using I2C?  UART is the easiest but you've said you're
having issues (I'll try and address those other threads).  What about SPI?
I have done some communication between the DuoVero and M4 via SPI and it
worked well enough.  I did see some packet errors with large packets at
higher rates (DuoVero is master, M4 is slave).  We're currently working on
resolving this SPI bridge issue.


Thanks,

Andrew



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Re: I2C interface as bridge between Aero2Core to Duvero

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So that's 64bytes at just over 60Hz ... that's not a lot of data.  The default MAVLink data stream I don't think is too far off that, most of the messages are at 10Hz but some are more.  What software are you using on either end?  Are you using stock PX4 software on the M4?  Yocto on the DuoVero?

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Yocto with Linux real time recipes on duovero. 

Stand M4 software.

Used the mavlink-socket example for serial setting on duovero.

Used the mavlink server serial setting on the M4.

Mavlink is disabled. 

Been though lots of different things to try to get this working.



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So that's 64bytes at just over 60Hz ... that's not a lot of data.  The
default MAVLink data stream I don't think is too far off that, most of the
messages are at 10Hz but some are more.  What software are you using on
either end?  Are you using stock PX4 software on the M4?  Yocto on the
DuoVero?

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Re: I2C interface as bridge between Aero2Core to Duvero

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Andrew, 

Do you have any sample code on how to address the SPI bridge from the Duovero Linux?

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On Jan 25, 2017, at 12:45 PM, Andrew C. Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Glen,

My apologies for being absent on here ... I'll try and go back and answer
all your previous questions.

Although I've never actually done it, theoretically I think it should be
possible to do communication over I2C (using jumper wires on the header).  I
would expect that one of the devices can act as a slave.  However, why are
you resorting to using I2C?  UART is the easiest but you've said you're
having issues (I'll try and address those other threads).  What about SPI?
I have done some communication between the DuoVero and M4 via SPI and it
worked well enough.  I did see some packet errors with large packets at
higher rates (DuoVero is master, M4 is slave).  We're currently working on
resolving this SPI bridge issue.


Thanks,

Andrew



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Re: I2C interface as bridge between Aero2Core to Duvero

glen@jetsoftdev.com
So on the Duovero Linux the TTYO... devices address the serial.

Does the TTYS... address the spi ports?
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Hi Glen,

I do have some SPI bridge stuff that I used for a project.  It worked OK up to a certain bandwidth but then I would see failures.  The cutoff bandwidth was lower than what I needed so I opted not to publish it.  We are currently picking away at a replacement, once that's verified it will get posted.  In the mean time, I'll try and find the code and post it here.

No the TTYS device is not the SPI port.  The SPI ports on the M4 and the DuoVero require a bit more work to use.


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glen@jetsoftdev.com
Andrew,

Thanks. Let me know I am stuck right not being able to communicate reliably between yo boards  and have been considering go to another platform. Would rather not start my project all over again.

It's a little work to try my serial test software on your standard download. I really don't think this is the problem. I think you have a driver, FIFO or interrupt problem. I will do it if you think it is worthwhile.

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Hi Glen,

I do have some SPI bridge stuff that I used for a project.  It worked OK up
to a certain bandwidth but then I would see failures.  The cutoff bandwidth
was lower than what I needed so I opted not to publish it.  We are currently
picking away at a replacement, once that's verified it will get posted.  In
the mean time, I'll try and find the code and post it here.

No the TTYS device is not the SPI port.  The SPI ports on the M4 and the
DuoVero require a bit more work to use.


Andrew



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Re: I2C interface as bridge between Aero2Core to Duvero

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Andrew,

Any more info on this?

If I can¹t get a fairly reliable data connection between to the two chips
I am going to have to move to another platform other than Gumstix. I hate
to move because I have already put a lot of development into this
platform.

Right now at over serial 16ms I get a failure every third packet. At a
second period maybe one out of 10.

I will try your standard off the shelf OS for the duovero side but I am
pretty sure that is not the issue.

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On 2/14/17, 9:53 AM, "Andrew C. Smith" <[hidden email]> wrote:

>Hi Glen,
>
>I do have some SPI bridge stuff that I used for a project.  It worked OK
>up
>to a certain bandwidth but then I would see failures.  The cutoff
>bandwidth
>was lower than what I needed so I opted not to publish it.  We are
>currently
>picking away at a replacement, once that's verified it will get posted.
>In
>the mean time, I'll try and find the code and post it here.
>
>No the TTYS device is not the SPI port.  The SPI ports on the M4 and the
>DuoVero require a bit more work to use.
>
>
>Andrew
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Re: I2C interface as bridge between Aero2Core to Duvero

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Andrew,

I am back to I2C and jumppering the two headers together.

The I2C appears to be referenced by a device in the Duvero operating
system. Do you Ithink the jumpered i2C would work for reliable
communication between the two chips at periods 16ms or less.

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On 1/25/17, 11:45 AM, "Andrew C. Smith" <[hidden email]> wrote:

>Hi Glen,
>
>My apologies for being absent on here ... I'll try and go back and answer
>all your previous questions.
>
>Although I've never actually done it, theoretically I think it should be
>possible to do communication over I2C (using jumper wires on the header).
> I
>would expect that one of the devices can act as a slave.  However, why are
>you resorting to using I2C?  UART is the easiest but you've said you're
>having issues (I'll try and address those other threads).  What about
>SPI?
>I have done some communication between the DuoVero and M4 via SPI and it
>worked well enough.  I did see some packet errors with large packets at
>higher rates (DuoVero is master, M4 is slave).  We're currently working on
>resolving this SPI bridge issue.
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Andrew
>
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Andrew,

There is definitely a problem with the serial bridge. When I connect the
Duvero UART to the M4 UART using the header and jumpers. My code works
fine. When I use the same expect code just with different TTY to
communicate over the serial bridge between the two chips, it fails.

What is the differences between these two UART sets?

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On 2/14/17, 9:53 AM, "Andrew C. Smith" <[hidden email]> wrote:

>Hi Glen,
>
>I do have some SPI bridge stuff that I used for a project.  It worked OK
>up
>to a certain bandwidth but then I would see failures.  The cutoff
>bandwidth
>was lower than what I needed so I opted not to publish it.  We are
>currently
>picking away at a replacement, once that's verified it will get posted.
>In
>the mean time, I'll try and find the code and post it here.
>
>No the TTYS device is not the SPI port.  The SPI ports on the M4 and the
>DuoVero require a bit more work to use.
>
>
>Andrew
>
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Any progress on the spi bridge code?

I can always pass things through the M4 over the my wired serial bridge but seems backwards.



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Hi Glen,

I do have some SPI bridge stuff that I used for a project.  It worked OK up
to a certain bandwidth but then I would see failures.  The cutoff bandwidth
was lower than what I needed so I opted not to publish it.  We are currently
picking away at a replacement, once that's verified it will get posted.  In
the mean time, I'll try and find the code and post it here.

No the TTYS device is not the SPI port.  The SPI ports on the M4 and the
DuoVero require a bit more work to use.


Andrew



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Andrew C. Smith
Hi Glen,

Wow, I'm really sorry about the delay on this.

I have attached a couple programs.

spidev_test.c
spi_bridge_m4.cpp

spidev_test.c uses the spidev driver on the COM to initiate the transfer and send data.
spi_bridge_m4.cpp is a program that runs on the M4 to receive data and send some back.

In this setup, the M4 is the slave and the COM is the master.  Setting a SPI to slave on the M4 requires recompiling your code and making some changes to the kernel and some of the SPI config files.  I've added a couple of patches here.  I wouldn't suggest applying the patches directly to your tree because they're based off an old version of PX4 and NuttX.  Use them to create your own patches.  Some stuff may not be necessary, this was just stuff I used for testing.

0001-Added-SPI-slave-mode-support.patch
0001-Added-spi_bridge-module-which-will-eventually-ta.patch


Hope this helps,

Andrew

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Thanks,

These are necessary patches for yocto in on the duovero side?


My EE guesses you have a problem with something like CTS lines on the M4 to duvero serial bridge direction. Have not looked at the schematics or scoped it.

This is a lot more debug work than I wanted to do on a standard product.


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Hi Glen,

Wow, I'm really sorry about the delay on this.

I have attached a couple programs.

spidev_test.c <http://gumstix.8.x6.nabble.com/file/n4971263/spidev_test.c>  
spi_bridge_m4.cpp
<http://gumstix.8.x6.nabble.com/file/n4971263/spi_bridge_m4.cpp>  

spidev_test.c uses the spidev driver on the COM to initiate the transfer and
send data.
spi_bridge_m4.cpp is a program that runs on the M4 to receive data and send
some back.

In this setup, the M4 is the slave and the COM is the master.  Setting a SPI
to slave on the M4 requires recompiling your code and making some changes to
the kernel and some of the SPI config files.  I've added a couple of patches
here.  I wouldn't suggest applying the patches directly to your tree because
they're based off an old version of PX4 and NuttX.  Use them to create your
own patches.  Some stuff may not be necessary, this was just stuff I used
for testing.

0001-Added-SPI-slave-mode-support.patch
<http://gumstix.8.x6.nabble.com/file/n4971263/0001-Added-SPI-slave-mode-support.patch>  
0001-Added-spi_bridge-module-which-will-eventually-ta.patch
<http://gumstix.8.x6.nabble.com/file/n4971263/0001-Added-spi_bridge-module-which-will-eventually-ta.patch>  


Hope this helps,

Andrew





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Re: I2C interface as bridge between Aero2Core to Duvero

Andrew C. Smith
Those are patches to the PX4 software on the M4 and the DuoVero.  I wouldn't actually suggest applying the PX4 patches but use them as a guide to enable slave mode.

I've never had a problem with the serial bridge.  I'm not using hardware control though, just 2 wires (RX, TX).


Andrew
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